Buschur Racing is conducting a suspension test and looking for input.

[David Buschur]

Alright guys, my mind is stuck on suspension and this is really the first time. Briefly, I started road racing, I got more and more involved, found out I do pretty good at it. Then I started looking at other people's set-ups and changed my own from cheap stuff to good stuff. Through all of this, like everything, I had my opinions, thoughts and doubts. Now I want to do some testing just like I have for making power for so long.

I'm wanted to post a poll but now realize it's not going to work. So, below are the questions I'd like to have you guys answer.

The suspension questions are for the shocks/springs ONLY. Cut and paste the questions below and fill in your answers, please:

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.

Thank you very much. I will start this show.

[David Buschur]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?

Apexi N1

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

$1125 plus $400 for upgraded Swift springs.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

Custom.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?

No.

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?

Same for the street/track. -1.8, 0 toe front. 0 toe/0 camber rear

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?

265/40/17

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?

140+

1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.

[mullen]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
apexi n1
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
$800
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
no im reserrching in to different spring rates for road racing/autocross, havent decided yet
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
yes
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
i believe robert did 2.3 fr/1.5 back on my car when it was there
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
again undecided but probably 255/40/17
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
i plan to have 2 sets
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under. (going to put a dedicated track tire on rpf1s or ce28s)
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over. (current setup on stock wheels)

[David Buschur]

Thank you, keep them coming.

[blackout]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
apexi n1

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

around $1100

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Running stock apexi springs for now would like to switch to the swift springs over winter

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
no

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
I can't find the sheet but i believe its 0 toe front and rear and around -1 camber front and rear

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
not sure would like to stay in 17" to not add weight back

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Something over 140 treadwear but a summer tire when i upgrade rims over the winter

[8thWonder]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?

stock struts w/ Swift Spec R springs

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

~$250 for springs

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

$500-$1000.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

Not sure yet

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?

No

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?

~-2.0 camber front; ~1.0 rear (can't remember the exact specs, but around that), 0 toe, etc; street & track

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BE COMPETING ON?

255/40/17

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.

Street tire 140+

[SloRice]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO? Apexi N1

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION? ~$1000

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? Possibly upgrading to AST 4100's (+$2000)

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM? currently have custom Swift Springs - 8K front, 10k rear

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED? No

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET? -3 degrees front, -2 degrees rear. Slight toe in on the front to help with tramlining on the street

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON? 255/40/17

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY? street tire (140+)

[David Buschur]

Thanks guys, looking for more input for those of you that haven't added your yet. I'm starting to chart the results.

[tkklemann]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?

KW Variant 3 with custom rate springs.
(Full bushings, camber plates, custom end links, F/R sway bars too, don't know if any of that matters.)

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

$2,100 for KW's and F/R Camber Plates, $400 for Custom Springs

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

N/A
(I would do it all over again at a $2,000+ price point.)

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

I replaced and ran with customs.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?

I will be looking at a re-valve soon due to age and possibly changing rates again.

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?

Mine is a street/track/auto-x set-up. I like one setting for all.

-2.0 Front, 0 Toe, -1.5 Rear, 0 Toe.

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?

I run Direzza Star Spec's at 245/45 R17's.

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.

Number 2 I believe is my answer, 140+.

My car is set-up in an attempt to do it all, Street, Track and Autox without changing anything.

[David Buschur]

Very good! This attempting to make an EVO do everything is a lot of work!!

[tkklemann]

Very good! This attempting to make an EVO do everything is a lot of work!!

Isn't that the truth! I have found that the only adjustments I do occasionally make on the suspension is going from what I call "Buick" mode to track mode which
is just adjusting the suspension compression and rebound.. I just soften it a little for daily street driving..

[Evilevo8]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
APEXI N1
WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
FREE
IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
N/A
ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Might look into swapping for better traction if problems present themselves
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
Not sure at moment..have coils right now refreshed completely
WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
I'll only adjust it if I get into the autoX but mostly its set for daily/drag usage
WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
255/35/18
WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.
2. Street tire tread wear 140 or over.
3. DOT race tire, like A6, C51 etc.
4. Full race tire.

Both 1 and 2

[mullen]

Very good! This attempting to make an EVO do everything is a lot of work!!

Be like curt and put ohlins on that beast lol and a turbo that comes alive before the back stretch for autoX...the bish set straight records now use her to turn

[JorgeYaHeard]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
TEIN S-Tech Springs

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
Came with the car

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

$1000-$2000

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
Custom

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
No

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
0 toe front and rear, camber -1.2 front, -.8 rear

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
235/45/17

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
Street tire tread wear 139 and under.

[Akinnear03]

Ok ive been reading these anwsers out suspensions amd one thing stands,out the alignment setu up. The 0 toe boggles me an seems alittle off cause u want zero toe when corner not driving straight.ive always set up any of the cars ive aligned with at the most 4 degrees positive the least 2 which is the number u want to hit .and has anyone thought of trying to find a way to adjust the caster a little negative that would help with turning

[RallyBud]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
-Swift Sport Springs. Switching to Swift Spec-R's after deployment.

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
-On the car when I purchased it.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.
-After I max out my ability on the Spec-R's I'll be looking for something in the $2000+ range.

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?
-Custom

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
-Not sure

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
-2.0 Front Camber, -1.0 Rear Camber

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?
-Thinking of 255/40-17's

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
-1. Street tire tread wear 139 and under.

[legendary_wraps]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?

Ohlins DFV

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?

$3200.00

IF YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT A SUSPENSION YET WHAT PRICE RANGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 0-$500. $500-$1000. $1000-$2000. $2000+.

n/a

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?

10K springs all around - setup by works suspension

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?

0 toe all around -2.5 from camber -1 camber rear

WHAT SIZE TIRE WILL YOU BEING COMPETING ON?

285/35/18

WHAT TYPE OF TIRE WILL YOU RUN MOSTLY?
3

[waynea]

WHAT SUSPENSION IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR EVO?
Works poly bushings, Works rear roll bar, GTWorx Springs, stock Bilsteins, RacingBrake 2 piece rotors, Works trunk cage, Noltec Chamber plates
plan to add whiteline roll comp, HD bilsteins, Perrin PSRS

WHAT PRICE DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUSPENSION?
1k to 2k so far

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE STANDARD SPRINGS RATES THAT COME ON THE COIL OVERS YOU INTEND TO BUY OR SOMETHING CUSTOM?

IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN A CUSTOM SPRING RATE WILL YOU BE PAYING TO HAVE THE COIL OVERS RE-VALVED?
very happy with gtworx

WHAT ALIGNMENT SETTINGS DO YOU RUN/PLAN TO RUN AND DOES IT CHANGE FROM THE TRACK TO THE STREET?
stock, but plan to add caster with PSRS and plates as needed

Noltec has been discontinued as far as I know. The cushioned camber plate is a very livable piece for a daily driver. The Works trunk cage and the GTWorx springs made the must difference of anything so far.

[stihlalive]

i have eibach springs right now- bumpy but handle good. lowered 2inches. came with the car but runs around 300 a set. im running -1.0 front and -1.5 rear untill new springs. swift springs apparently are amazing. im planning on getting a set of there race springs. im not sure on the price. id deff check out there website