Help major problem !

[doughboy26]

Ok my buddy has a 92 talon tsi awd 462 hp 372tq on e85 with aem ems fuel is fed by a buschar racing double pumper with dual 255s and 1600cc injectors and the list keeps going . Now the problem is it keeps eating starters over and over agian don't know why! So Ive come here today hoping someone can tell me why so I can get this fixed for him..Now as for drivetrain its a shep stage 3 trans ptt twin disk arp flywheel bolts and I don't know what the flywheel is yet i'm goin off what he told me the kid he got it from said it had but we do have a dyno sheet to prove hp but nothing else at the moment. I'm going to pull the trans out later today and hope its not a horrific scene in there . Any one have any idea what could be the problem? I'm gettin sick of pulling starters off this damn thing only to see the gear ripped to hell and goin to get a new one for it only to last 3 days maximum..

[tallcodya]

Are the teeth being brokin off of the starter ? What is exactly going bad?

[mullen]

depending on the setup, could be heat causing them to go bad????

[doughboy26]

Yes its ripping the teeth off the gear of the starter .I pulled the trans and to my suprise there is no damage to the flywheel and it is not a ptt..It is a quarter master vtwin 7.25 ..

[doughboy26]

I did also find that there are no dowl pins in the plate or on the trans .He will be picking up 2 new ones too put in when I put the trans back in.
Also there was a crack in the trans to the point that the peice fell off when I pulled the trans it was broke clean off it was broke where the trans bolts to the block by the thermastat housing but it is now at the welding shop being fixed. I shoulda asked if that was a good idea b4 taking it there..

[Slocho]

Does it make any grinding sound after you've installed the new starter? how long did the new starter last before it ripped the teeth off? maybe one of the started wires is touching power intermitently and causing the starter to engage the teeth while the engine is running.. just a thought hope this helps. also how do all the teeth look on the flywheel? if you already have it apart.

[doughboy26]

After u put a new starter in it it will last around 3 days before its starts grinding real bad Ive check wiring as well.The teeth look fine no missing teeth or severe damage out of the ordinary!

[Slocho]

Dang not cool. hmm.. what i can think of at the moment is that the starter and flywheel teeth dont match or after install the starter gets misalinged but thats unlikely since youd feel if a bolt hole was cross threaded. you mentioned that you werent sure what kind of flyhweel it has? if you can get a hold of a stock flywheel or a new aftermarket try that, since you have to get the starter new again you know there cant be anything wrong with multiple starters. since both the starter and flywheel are bolted in place there cant be too much things that are going wrong to rip the teeth off. my diagnosis- since the starter teeth only engage monentarily you dont get much teeth contact in those few times you start the car in 3 days, enough for a wrong flywheel to chew up the new starter gear. hope this helps man keep us posted.

[mullen]

id say its from the crack in the transmission, very unlikely though...could be causing the whole thing to flex if its really cracked as bad as you say

[doughboy26]

ok guys another update did a little searching only to find out another person had this problem..As it turns out it was the flywheel.Heres my issue I can't bolt a quater master vtwin 7.25 to a stock flywheel. I have a stock 6 bolt flywheel and a fidanza 6 bolt flywheel but no clutch and pressure plate to see if this will make it drivable agian till he can purchase another flywheel to put the quarter master back in .As for the crack it is fixed now and being picked up at noon today jus gotta figure out how I can make it drivable for him and for me to not have to put a starter on it 3 days from now ..

[Slocho]

o i see yea dont want to keep buying starters, hmm.. if you can, try counting the number of teeth on your fidanza flywheel and count the teeth on the flywheel that was on the car to see if they have the same number of teeth. i think worst case he's going to have to pick up a new flywheel and clutch kit and new starter, maybe a clutch setup that has worked with other dsm cars making around the same power?