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Thread: Project: 2010 Ralliart Sportback

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    Default Project: 2010 Ralliart Sportback

    Hey all,

    I picked up a 2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback yesterday.

    This will be a on-going project for me. The goal is for it to speak softly but carry a big stick, well, at least for a ralliart.



    Did some baseline pulls today. The car was 100% bone stock for this. 178 miles on the car. On the dyno was actually the first time it saw WOT. :beer:

    Baseline:

    192 whp / 210 wtq

    17.7 psi peak tapering to 9.7 psi at 6200 RPM

    12.5 AFR at peak boost (3300 rpm) tapering to 10.3 AFR (6200 rpm)



    This is perfectly inline with all the 2009 stock Ralliarts that have been on this dyno so the 2010 seems to be making the same power stock.



    Here are the stages I plan on going with this car:

    1. 100% stock with custom tune

    2. 100% stock with GST boost pill upgrade and custom tune

    3. DW1000cc injectors, Blaqops single pump kit, GST boost pill upgrade, E85 and custom tune.

    4. All of #3 plus start adding OEM Evo 10 parts like FMIC, IC pipes, etc

    5. CBRD BBX?

    I will be sharing all the data from these stages. I bought this car for my own development purposes, especially for SST development, to benefit all the RA and MR owners...

    I'll be updating this thread as I go through the stages.

    - Bryan

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    Love the hatchback, good looking car. Are they available with a sunroof?
    Curt Brown
    2012 WRX hatch, don't ask me how slow it is!
    2006 EB EVO IX 10.49@141.82 FP Green
    94 Talon 10.4@137.7 16g power
    9.10@160.3 FP35r HTA


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    Very nice, i saw that on driving sports. Thing looks pretty sweet especially for a sportback/wagon.

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    Man I am so jealous. I plan on picking one of these up in the summer!

    Turboback, UICP, Intake, E85 @ 30psi... Stock cams, stock motor, stock turbo, stock everything lol

    383hp/395tq

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRE View Post
    Love the hatchback, good looking car. Are they available with a sunroof?
    Only in Canada and Puerto Rico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryan@GST View Post
    Only in Canada and Puerto Rico.

    Wow, same as the 2010 STI hatch, sunroof only in Canada, WTF.
    Curt Brown
    2012 WRX hatch, don't ask me how slow it is!
    2006 EB EVO IX 10.49@141.82 FP Green
    94 Talon 10.4@137.7 16g power
    9.10@160.3 FP35r HTA


    www.CBEVO.com

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    Nice looking Sportback! Looking forward to your progress on this project. Damn looks like Mitsu copied my wheel selection

    1992 AWD TALON Automatic
    2.3/V3 SD/FP 3052/Self Tuned
    11.1 @ 122

    2004 EVO RS Sold
    FP Red/Stock Motor/Stock ECU/ Maf/Self Tuned
    11.03 @ 123

    FP Black/Stock ECU/Maf/Self Tuned
    10.85 @ 131

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    UPDATE: Completed stage 1, 100% stock with custom tune today:

    Had to do the baseline again as our dyno computer crashed and we lost the data.

    This is a custom tune, the car is still 100% stock down to the paper filter. It also has no boost pill upgrade yet.

    223 whp / 241 wtq

    Boost after tuning: 18.5 psi peak (3200rpm), tapering to 10 psi (7400rpm)

    Boost factory stock: 17.5 psi peak (3400rpm), tapering to 9.5 psi (6500rpm)



    This is now making about the same horsepower as a stock Evo 10 on our dyno.

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    Here is a WOT run 2nd gear through 4th and just into 5th gear, on the dyno.



    You can see the stock FMIC is ok for all of 2nd and all of 3rd but then can't keep shedding the heat anymore once into 4th.

    Temp at the MAF stays constant but the Manifold temp raises 7*F

    In a single 3rd gear pull the FMIC can keep up but not back to back pulls.

    Keep in mind this is on our dyno, which has pretty big fans but obviously can't simulate the amount of frontal air flow deep in to higher gears and higher MPH. However, a good FMIC can still handle this as I have tested them in the same conditions on our dyno.

    When I get some time, I'll do the same pull on the street.

    It should be interesting to see the same data once I put the Evo 10 OEM FMIC on.

    - Bryan

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    Good gains!

    I can't wait to see what you are able to do with the Ralliart now that you have one... you have done good by us before you had one, now it will be even better

    Now, empty the fuel tank, fill it with E-85 and do a custom tune to show the difference in power just fuel makes

    Keith

    PS: Is your ROM ID 55590006 the same as mine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourdoordsm View Post
    Good gains!

    I can't wait to see what you are able to do with the Ralliart now that you have one... you have done good by us before you had one, now it will be even better

    Now, empty the fuel tank, fill it with E-85 and do a custom tune to show the difference in power just fuel makes

    Keith

    PS: Is your ROM ID 55590006 the same as mine?
    Yea I can't wait to E85 it. I'm holding back for a little just to get some more miles on her (not even 500 miles yet) and I want to do a couple more "stages" on pump gas first.

    The ROM ID is 55590007. It's basically the same rom as the 0006 as far as I can tell.

    Thanks again for the Evoscan data entries!

    - Bryan

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    Small update:

    I have about 800 miles on the car now. Took it for a drive out to Lake Sonoma in Healdsburg, which is off Skaggs Creek road, one of the best driving road in Northern California, IMHO.

    In all honesty, I thought I was going to be really disappointed in the handling of this car but it really surprises me every time I have a chance to throw it around. I'll get this out of the way first, it's not my Evo by any means, but I never expected it to be. I haven't really pushed the car hard and really haven't put alot of heat through it. I know this is where it's going to seperate itself from the Evo, and I totally understand that and have no issue with that, but this thing still surprises me.

    I like the SST more then I ever thought I would. Flying into a corner and dropping down gears by just tapping some paddles a couple times and without it upsetting the chassis just amazes me every time. I've been a die hard manual user all my life but this SST continues to impress me.

    The low end grunt of this turbo coupled with the SST makes blasting out of corners with the back end wagging out just right and then clicking up through the gears is just straight up fun every time. The stock turbo loses all its fun dynamics at higher speeds like the freeway where the car feels slow as a snail, at least compared to my Evo.

    The ride is much stiffer then I imagined it would be. It's not bad but you can tell this chassis is much stiffer then the CT9A, no surprises there. Having a quiet car has been great and I am going to try really hard to maintain that, which has been my game plan with this car and will continue to be.

    The huge side mirrors create a TON of wind noise at highway speeds. It's actually a big annoying but i'll trade that for the relentless drone my Evo produces at the same speeds.

    It seems really easy to invoke ASC in this car with it all stock down to the stock tires and it's a bit annoying when it starts kicking in so I just started turning it off when I am driving the car with fun in mind.

    The car averaged 24 mpg on the way to the lake and back. It's up about 1-2 mpg with the tune. Not bad but I was expecting a bit more with the tune and the car being 100% stock. Keep in mind I am used to 17-20 mpg with my 400whp+ E85 Evo 8.

    I've had a ton of use for the hatch already and it's AWESOME. I just throw crap back there and it's really easy to open the hatch and close it back up and go. The hatch just fits my lifestyle right now and to have a hatch with AWD and a turbocharged 4B11 is just icing on the cake. I love it.

    This car so far gets much more looks then my Evo ever did, by just normal random average people. Probably because it's a bit odd looking and a bit different then other cars on the road.

    This car is going to get really fun with E85 and more power......

    - Bryan

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    Nice! Keep the info coming as I may look into getting one of these in the future as a good all 'round daily driver.
    BR Powered, Red, E85, BR Mojo
    Project Foolkiller
    541whp/461tq

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