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    Default Random FMIC information with a little turbo info mixed in.....

    I am going to compile some intercooler information I have here along with the type of turbo used. If I have the engine size (2 liter, 2.3 etc.) I will list that information too.

    All data was gathered doing testing on our AWD Mustand Dyno. Same fans were used although the testing is scattered at different times throughout the year. This is in NO WAY back to back testing of any particular intercooler. No horsepower data, no pressure loss. Simply air intake temps I have, boost levels and the point the car reached full boost as that's important to see how long the car was in boost compared to tempurature increase.

    For anyone that I have tuned here with an AEM, if you don't see your brand FMIC on here please send me a PM with your name and which FMIC you had and I will post the data. This would be very helpful as I can't remember everyone's combinations and want to make sure this data is correct.
    Last edited by David Buschur; 11-30-2007 at 12:40 PM.
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    Default BR Race FMIC

    2 liter
    GT35r, header kit
    BR Race FMIC

    Starting AIT, 82.40 degrees
    Ending AIT, 96.80 degrees
    Peak boost, 31.63 psi
    20 psi at 4800 rpm

    This is Trent's car on pump gas.
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    Default ETS T4, GT35r kit with Perrin FMIC

    2 liter
    ETS T4, GT35r kit
    Perrin FMIC

    Starting AIT 102.2 degrees
    Ending AIT 118.4 degrees
    Peak boost 32.60 psi
    20 psi at 6063 rpm
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    Default Turbo Trix T3 GT35r, ETS 3.5" FMIC

    2 liter
    Turbo Trix T3, GT35r kit
    ETS 3.5" FMIC

    Starting AIT 105.8 degrees
    Ending AIT 129.2 degrees
    Peak boost 36.31 psi
    20 psi at 5086 rpm
    Last edited by David Buschur; 12-04-2007 at 04:35 PM.
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    First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
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    Default GT40, 2.3 liter, BR Race FMIC

    GT40, custom header
    2.3 liter
    BR Race FMIC

    Starting AIT 44.60 degrees
    Ending AIT 53.60 degrees
    Peak boost 35.53 psi
    20 psi at 5063 rpm
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    Default 1G DSM, 2 liter, BR GT35r, OLD original 1g DSM BR FMIC

    This is nuts:

    2 liter
    BR GT35r header kit
    Old original FMIC (this is one 15+ years ago we thought was the best)

    Starting AIT 107.6 degrees
    Ending AIT 194 degrees
    Peak boost 31.80 degrees
    20 psi at 4793 rpm
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    Default 1G DSM, 2 liter, BR GT35r, NEW 1g DSM BR FMIC

    Same car as above but we designed and built our new FMIC for the DSM

    2 liter
    BR GT35r header kit
    New 1G DSM FMIC

    Starting AIT 86 degrees
    Ending AIT 107.6 degrees
    Peak boost 37.40 degrees (NOTE 6 more psi than the base run!!)
    20 psi at 4695 rpm (NOTE, 100 rpm sooner to 20 psi!!)
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    First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
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    Default 2 liter, GREEN, BR Deluxe FMIC

    Starting AIT 64.40 degrees
    Ending AIT 93.20 degrees
    Peak boost 27.73 psi
    20 psi at 3273 rpm
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    First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
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    Default 2 liter, GREEN, BR race FMIC

    This is the same car as above, one day apart after a change to the Race FMIC

    Starting AIT 95 degrees
    Ending AIT 100.4 degrees
    Peak boost 33 psi (NOTE 6 more psi and still cooler temps)
    20 psi at 3723 rpm
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    WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
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    2011 NASA Championships TTD runner-up

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    Default 2 liter, AMS GT35r, AMS Race FMIC

    Starting AIT 87.80 degrees
    Ending AIT 93.20 degrees
    Peak boost 41.12 psi
    20 psi 4676
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    Default 2 liter, BRHTA35r, Race FMIC

    Starting AIT, 71.60
    Ending AIT, 77.oo
    Peak boost, 42.27 psi
    20 psi at 4691 rpm
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    WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
    WORLD'S First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.
    2011 NASA Championships TTD runner-up

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    Default 2 liter, HKS 3037, AMS standard FMIC

    Starting AIT, 104 degrees
    Ending AIT, 125.6 degrees
    Peak boost, 23.57 psi
    20 psi at 4691 rpm
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    First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
    WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
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    Default 2.3 liter, AMS GT35r, AMS standard FMIC

    Starting AIT, 102.2 degrees
    Ending AIT, 134.6 degrees
    Peak boost 23.98 psi
    20 psi at 4551
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    First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
    WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
    WORLD'S First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.
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    Default 2 liter, BR GT35r header kit, EBAY (AMS STYLE) FMIC

    Starting AIT 64.40 degrees
    Ending AIT 122 degrees
    Peak boost 42.1 psi
    20 psi at 4563 rpm
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    WORLD'S First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.
    2011 NASA Championships TTD runner-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    This is the same car as above, one day apart after a change to the Race FMIC

    Starting AIT 95 degrees
    Ending AIT 100.4 degrees
    Peak boost 33 psi (NOTE 6 more psi and still cooler temps)
    20 psi at 3723 rpm
    Dave, first off thanks for the info, it is highly valued and taken for just what it is, some logs at various times, not a direct comparison, yadda yadda yadda. Still the data says a lot.

    Question: is it common to see and extra ~400rpms of lag when stepping up to your race core, even if you're coming from the (already fairly big) deluxe core? Or does this depend on the turbo...i.e. a stock-frame turbo like the IX or 20GLT will see more lag on the race core than say a 35R?

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    About a month ago I upgraded my 94 Talon from the "old" BR race core, 2-216 to the new 4" BR core, wow, way faster boost repsonse and nearly eliminated all knock on pump gas and the car is being pushed very hard on pump, New core is the best upgrade ive done in a long time.
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    9.10@160.3 FP35r HTA


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    Default 2 liter, SBR GT30, SBR FMIC

    Starting AIT 91.40
    Ending AIT 113.00
    Peak boost 25.48
    20 psi at 4125 rpm
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    WORLD'S First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.
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    I noticed that one example I posted and the additional lag. I posted it anyway because that how I operate, post the truth and be done with it.

    I do not feel that is typical and have other logs of cars with the same race FMIC's on it and same turbo that have much faster boost response. Looking at it now I wonder if there was a leak............
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    Default stock, 2 liter, green, race FMIC, E85

    Starting AIT, 95
    Ending AIT, 98.60
    Peak boost, 31.77
    20 psi at 3641 rpm
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    WORLD'S First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.
    2011 NASA Championships TTD runner-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBRE
    About a month ago I upgraded my 94 Talon from the "old" BR race core, 2-216 to the new 4" BR core, wow, way faster boost repsonse and nearly eliminated all knock on pump gas and the car is being pushed very hard on pump, New core is the best upgrade ive done in a long time.

    Very intersting!! I was only able to run about 20 psi on 94 octane with my FP Green....Maybe this would help.......
    95 AWD-auto
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    Precision Billet Converter 3500 stall/ IPT end clutch kit/ IPT valve body.....All on the way....

    DSM LINK is next..

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